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The phrase 'ton deuteron ploun' is Greek for 'second voyage' which was understood to be a harder, more arduous method of travel, but one more reliable and likely to get you to your destination. (Think: rowing rather than sailing.) This blog is going to be a tool, for me, to work through my reading list for my comprehensive exams, coming up oh-too-soon. It is going to serve as an important part of my own deuteron ploun.
Doesn't Aristotle also talk of things that happen "for the most part" and wouldn't this be the law-like regularities?
Burnyeat references the EN here. The quote from the EN is as follows: "Clearly then practical wisdom is a virtue and not a skill. And sicne there are two parts of the soul that possess reason, it will be in virtue of one of them, namely, that which forms beliefs, both beliefs and practical wisdom being concerned with what cannot be otherwise. (EN 6.5, 1140b)."
Burnyeat points to A6 for this. I don't see it here, though. What A says is that if he apodeiktihe episteme comes about, you need necessary principles. Does Burnyeat want to say that apodeixis = explanation?
It sounds weird to say one understands THAT something unless the sort of understanding you're talking about is semantic understanding.
If I 'demonstrate' the necessary proposition AaC from non-necessary premises, then I don't know why AaC and thus do not understand AaC
If premises are contingent, then AaC can't hold because of them.
This seems to indicate that the way to come to understand the reason why comes via demonstration with necessary truths. Hopefully later he'll give an account of how demonstrations act as a proper way to come to know the reason why. Or why the results of demonstration are considered accounts of the reason why.
It's also interesting to note the idea that understanding does not come about without having an account of the reason why.
A presupposition apparent in (3) is that a proposition (P) might change its truth value between t1 and t2.Would this be for things that happen for the most part? Necessary truths can't change their truth value, surely.
For any argument of the form P so necessarily Q will be good since NO argument of that form will be good, where Q is not necessary.
Example of 1: If the only triangles we were aware of were isosceles, we might believe 2R held universally of the isosceles because we have no concept of triangle.
Example of 2: Aristotle is referring to a universal mathematics - an allusion to Eudoxian generalization.
Example of 3: If we observe that all perpendiculars are parallel and we wrongly inter that this is what we demonstrate.
'first' means first terms after whose abstraction R fails to hold. The thing that holds first holds primitively; so the abstraction colds primitively of 'triangle'.
I found this to be a nearly incomprehensible chapter. The notes below barely make sense, Barnes' commentary, while helpful, was also baffling (although I doubt Barnes is at fault here). This is something I need to go back to at a future date when I might have a better idea of what is going on.
Aristotle gives four ways A can hold of B 'in itself'. The first two:
1) A holds of B in itself = df 'A holds of B and A inheres in the definition of B'
ex: animal holds of man in itself
2) A holds of B in itself = df 'A holds of B and B inheres in the definition of A'
ex: mortal holds of animal (good example?)
Barnes then talks of I-predication. A proposition is an I-predication if
a) it is of the form 'Every B is an A' and
b) it is true in virtue of the fact that A holds of B in itself.
The proposition is an I1 proposition if 'in itself' is taken in sense 1 (above) and a proposition is an I2 proposition if 'in itself' is taken in sense 2 (above).
A. distinguishes things that exist in themselves (independently) with things that exist incidentally.
A distinction between natural and unnatural predications. If 'x is y' is a natural predication, then
1) 'x is y' doesn't entail something else is Y and happens to be X
2) X is not ontologically dependent on anything else, and
3) x is an independently identifiable subject of change
This involves a connection between events
A. is referring to I1 and I2 predications. When A. says that "A holds of B simpliciter" he is talking of I2 predication, and when he refers to "as regards the opposites" he refers to I2 predications.
The definition of 'universal 'has three components:
1) 'of every case'
2) 'in itself', and
3) 'as such' (qua)
A holds B as such iff there is no term C which explains why A holds of B; iff AaB is immediate.
Being an I-predication and holding as such are logically equivalent.
reread Barnes' summary of the chapter on pp 120-2. Are there any articles that might make this a bit more clear?
At 100b15 Aristotle says that the principle of understanding is the nous or comprehension by which we have knowledge of the principles.
The definiendum is understanding simpliciter
The definiens contains two conjuncts
1) to do with the explanation (aitia, to dioti, to dia ti)
2) to do with necessity
To give the aitia for something is to say why it is the case.
The first conjunct of the definiens of understanding:
1) a understands x only if a knows that y is the explanation of x
The second conjunct of the definiens is ambiguous. it is either:
2a) a understands x only if x cannot be otherwise
2b) a understands x only if a knows that x cannot be otherwise.
(Barnes goes for 2b)
These two (necessary) conditions for understanding are jointly sufficient. So we get a definition for understanding simpliciter:
a understands x = df a knows that y is the explanation for x and a knows that x cannot be otherwise
Note how restrictive 2b is - it only allows knowledge of necessary matters. Even Aristotle seems to want (at times) to broaden the notion of episteme to matters which hold only for the most part.
Primitive: there is no Q prior to P...there is no Q from which knowledge of P must be derived. Indemonstrable: needing no demonstration. This does not imply that it is immediate because there may be a vaild but non-demonstrative syllogism concluding to P
If the only knowledge necessary for having a demonstration of P is knowledge of the principles from which P is deducible, then the principles must contain the explanation of P.
Priority is knowledge; knowledge that Q requires knowledge that P but not vice versa. A. treats familiarity the same as priority.
Immediate: to lack a middle term. A syllogistic proposition AxC is immediate iff there is no term B distinct from A and C such that AxB, BxC |-- AxC is a syllogism.
These characteristics concentrate on the implication of the explanatory conjunct of the definiens (see above); the implication of the necessity definiens will be taken up in A4.
The six characteristics are divisible into two groups:
1) absolute features of demonstration
2) relative features of demonstration
The six features characterize principles or axioms of a demonstrative science.
If there is nothing 'between' P & Q then there is no third possibility apart from P or Q.
Aristotle use the phrases 'common axiom' as well as 'axiom' to mean the same thing. It is called a common axiom because it is shared with more than one science.
We should take suppositions to be exclusively existential propositions.
A. should have said that there are two kinds of posits:
1) that something is (supposition)
2) what something is (definition)
I need to read up on posits. It looks like a vexed subject.
look back at Barnes' analysis of this argument.
Knowledge is of two sorts.
1) knowledge of propositions (that x is)
2) knowledge of terms (what x means)(Barnes says: the knowledge presupposed by a teacher is of two sorts..." I don't get this reference to a teacher - perhaps it is looking back to 71a5(6?) where A. says that both deductive and inductive arguments "effect their teaching through what we already know"?)
So if I learn that Sophie is a mammal by inference from the following premises:
1) all cats are mammals and
2) Sophie is a cat
Then though I must already know that all cats are mammals, I may learn that Sophie is a mammal and that Sophie is a cat at the same time.
Note: A. doesn't say that we learn the premise as we learn the conclusion but rather as we are being led to the conclusion.
Read more about knowledge simpliciter/episteme haplos. It's hard to get my mind around right now.)
Barnes: Universal knowledge is knowledge of things like 'all triangles have three angles' but perhaps not particular knowledge (about this triangle).
I can see how this works with the first principles, given how Aristotle says that they're discovered. How does this work for the principles/conclusions derived from demonstration? Will these already be known prior to putting them into such form? It seems at least possible that one could discover new things via the method of demonstration. Although perhaps this isn't really the point...A. might not deny that you can learn things via demonstration, but still insist that it's primary purpose isn't discovery but the organization of things you've already discovered.
The influence of Plato and his dialectic?
Was mathematics already axiomatized at this point, or was Euclid the one that axiomatized mathematics? (This ties back, too, with the idea that Plato wanted knowledge to be modeled after mathematics...)
Like having a shape of a certain kind, colors in a certain configuration, etc as primary properties and it being beautiful as a derivative property?
An example of this? All men are mortals, Socrates is a man (would this be a case of AiB?), Socrates is a mortal. (?) Perhaps Every cat is a mammal, every mammal bears live young, therefore every cat bears live young?
I can see how this works with the first principles, given how Aristotle says that they're discovered. How does this work for the principles/conclusions derived from demonstration? Will these already be known prior to putting them into such form? It seems at least possible that one could discover new things via the method of demonstration. Although perhaps this isn't really the point...A. might not deny that you can learn things via demonstration, but still insist that it's primary purpose isn't discovery but the organization of things you've already discovered.
The influence of Plato and his dialectic?
Was mathematics already axiomatized at this point, or was Euclid the one that axiomatized mathematics? (This ties back, too, with the idea that Plato wanted knowledge to be modeled after mathematics...)
Like having a shape of a certain kind, colors in a certain configuration, etc as primary properties and it being beautiful as a derivative property?
An example of this? All men are mortals, Socrates is a man (would this be a case of AiB?), Socrates is a mortal. (?) Perhaps Every cat is a mammal, every mammal bears live young, therefore every cat bears live young?
Might we see this as a prototype of perception as a criterion of truth? Although one might have to claim that for it to be a proper sort of criterion of truth it must be true all the time and not just for the most part. This is much more like the Epicurean account of epistemology, at least, than I thought. (Although the Epicureans were atomists, and so their account of perception is going to be drastically different than Aristotle's).